Sunday, August 5, 2007

On the Smart Man, WFGSIIC, part 2 of 87

This is the second part of 87 parts on Why Female Gender Supremacy is Ignorant Crap. It's also a companion post to On the Strong Man from earlier this year.

Wow. So, I was hoping that a few people would read my post last Sunday, but I wasn't expecting that so many people would read it, comment, and have their own blog reactions to the subject. My post touched the surface. Other people took the subject much further and much deeper.

Almost makes a body (a particularly lazy and rather harried body such as mine) want to break off here and let the rest of the world do the heavy lifting. But, as I've gone about my crazy-week-from-hell in the real world, other posts on the subject have germinated in the background. Things I'd really like to say at some time. I'm not up to 87 parts yet, but there's at least five more running around my brain.

I thought part two was going to be about why I find Female Gender Supremacy so personally insulting it raises bile in my throat and makes my hands shake if I think about it too long. But something, maybe Maymay ;) , has me thinking about the Smart Man more than anything else this Sunday.

God, I love smart men. Now, I love smart women, too, of course, but this post isn't about smart women, it's about smart men. Smart men are so fucking sexy.....wait... I'll resist turning this post into how fucking sexy a smart guy is, since that's not the topic at hand. Focus, E, focus! (It's been too long since I told you how I feel about Tim Russert, but we'll revisit the hotness of smart guys shortly. )


Instead, I want to tell you how smart guys have saved my life.

I never did the girl thing very well. If you look at the gender revolution that was going on while I was growing up (born in 1961), it's no wonder. When I was a little girl, I had to wear a hat, patent leather shoes and white gloves when I went into The City. And learn to set a table properly. There were jobs for men and jobs for women. Women got paid less then men and everybody knew it. Then come the gender revolution and roles got very confusing........god, I could blame the gender revolution, but honestly, I think in any era, I would have just sucked at doing the girl thing. (Keeping white gloves white doesn't last long with me. Do not ask me to sew on a button. That's what the dry cleaner is for.) I would have always been more interested in reading a book on crocheting than learning how to actually crochet. (That's what professional crocheters are for.)

So, one thing and another, I grew up with a hunger to be recognized, accepted and embraced as an individual person, not by gender standards. And not by sexuality, neither. (Even today, you'll find that I'm quite reserved, in person, about sexuality. You'd not have the least idea I'm kinky wild ;). My sexuality is private because I'm an individual first. If you accept and embrace the individual, I just might, just might, let you in on the wild, sexy side. If you're a good boy.)

There was never anything, still isn't, like a room with smart guys in it to make me feel accepted for me. (You might say, well what about the smart women. It's true now, but not true when I was growing up, which is a long section of this post I cut out. The section involved approval based on neat penmanship, adherence to project instructions and color coded note cards. I've cut that because it was long, ranty and not germane to the topic. But it felt good to spill it all out before I blasted it away. As if I had time to learn to write cursive so another human being could read it. I was trying to get through the entire Encylopedia Britannica and Websters' Unabridged Dictionary.)

When I was younger, the smart guys, the really smart ones and not the ones who think they are smart but aren't, the smart guys always understood me, or pieces of me, and accepted me for who I was. Mostly because we liked talking to each other. We'd talk during class, or hang out in groups in the newspaper or yearbook room during study hall. Drink too much coffee. Dish on life, those theories the young have that aren't grounded in much other than idealism. Talk about heady stuff, or not.

Maybe they wanted to get in my pants, but I never had that feeling from them, even though I had the biggest boobs in the entire graduating class of 700. The smart guys made me feel like a person, with no gender expectations or standards, just a meeting of the minds in seriousness and silliness. While the rest of the smart girls were practicing penmanship, I was hanging out with the smart guys doing Monty Python routines. Bring me a shrubbery! Is this the right room for an argument? Tis not! Tis!

We had coconut shells and we knew how to use them.

And so on in the rest of my life. I'll save my battles with gender inequality in the workplace for another post in the series, and just tell you this. It was hard, fucking, fucking, fucking hard to make my way in the business world, totally male dominated and controlled when I started. Fucking hard. To be diminished and ignored for no other reason than I was a woman. You think you know and I'll tell you right now, you don't know. You don't know until it happens to you, from both sexes, not just the men. Because of my gender.

Who was my friend in all of that? The Smart Man. He was there for me, when I needed him most, standing out in a sea of testosterone addled male chauvinist assholes...the Smart Man, more than one, recognized me, reached out and helped me along the way. He helped me not because I was a woman or a man, but because he saw me for me. And we were friends.

Will I ever do less than see him for him? He is my friend and I will take the head off of anybody who tries to draw him as anything other than the brilliant, capable, strong and worthy of respect man that he is. You will not diminish him, only over my dead body.

I will never, ever, ever believe Female Gender Supremacy is anything other than Ignorant Crap. Ignorant, ignorant crap. As if your sexual kink is any better excuse for blindness and stupidity than the ignorant, polarizing societal norms I grew up with were. As if.

I don't know if part 2 was any more cogent than part 1, but the series really picks up 'round about parts 24 or 25. Really.

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This just in.

I thought I would add a quote to round out the post.

Lack of paragraph breaks is not mine, it's the original Superior Poster.

All men are inferior, but the undying need to serve a Woman, suffer her humiliations and long for the wrath and abuse of a lovely Goddess is engrained in only some men. you may try to stifle this urge, forget your natural inclination, and marry a sweet little wife who makes you meatloaf and picks the fluff off your jacket. you may pretend to be different. But that’s not going to make you any different. As an inferior male, your need to serve, your innate desire to please and amuse a Woman, the fact that you recognize your own inferiority and insignificance IS the only thing you have to be proud of. Accept and embrace your submissive, TRUE nature—this is your only redeeming quality. Why is there so much shame in the submission of males in our society? your shame is in the fact that you are male, the fact that your almighty schlong controls and wields it's control over your entire existence. your PRIDE is your MISTRESS; SHE is the only thing that makes you good. How can the fact that you pamper, adore and worship a Beautiful, Wise, Enlightened and Wicked GODDESS be considered immoral or twisted? Embrace your stupid submission. Revel in the fact that you are OWNED. If ever a MISTRESS has said to you, “good dog” or “haha, I could abuse your dumbass all day!” or “you made me laugh” or “what a sweet pig, NOW send more money!” you have achieved your goal. For a moment in time, you were more than just a worthless wanker. That big macho dumbshit who measures his worth by fucking any girl with a low self-esteem who will have him, who takes advantage of a Woman’s intrinsic need to be Loved and Adored, who wears his baseball cap backwards, hangs out a Hooters and actually thinks the Girls in Playboy aren’t airbrushed and actually want to fuck him, the one who tells you what a pussywhipped fool you are and how you let uppity Women walk all over you--he is a complete idiot. he is the deluded fool. As inferior and worthless pigs, you are actually one small step above him. If he is not pleasing some Woman, pray tell, what damned purpose does he serve?

27 comments:

Beeeeej said...

I love men. Fuck, fuck, fuck. I fucking love men and masculinity. My entire sexuality is based around the expression of that. I have said before that I am not so much a heterosexual as a woman with a masculinity fetish.

I've slept around. Call it field research. Here are my findings: men are awesome. Smart ones are awesomest

Elizabeth said...

You can get an "Amen" from this corner, sister.

Amen.

Kate said...

Let me join in this hallelujah choir...

and if that smart man is funny as well...

This combo will beat out the bad boy every time...

and you know how much I like them!

Kate

Elizabeth said...

Hey Kate -

One of two things, either all Smart Men are funny *or* I only count them, personally, as a Smart Man if they are.

Wicked, sharp sense of humour. Gets me hotter than hard abs (which you will not hear me complaining about, either).

E

tom allen said...

*preens*

*struts around the room*

*beams*

Thank you, E ;-)

You found my personal button.

*goes back to "the comfy chair"*

*blows a kiss*

Elizabeth said...

LOL, I'm pretty sure you were there in high school, hanging out with me, weren't you Tom?

Thanks for the support when I needed it, big time. Wouldn't be who I am without you.

*blows kiss back*

E

maymay said...

Despite the fact that it is slightly off topic, perhaps I am railing against many prodommes because of this little gem:

or “what a sweet pig, NOW send more money!” you have achieved your goal.

As a high school dropout and someone who was told throughout his life that I would amount to very little and probably always be poor (like my parents), and who has just recently (at age 22) been the first and only person I know of in real life who has broken into a socioeconomic status above that of his parents, I resent the notion of other people paying money for something so outlandish as half-hearted fulfillment of their own sexual kinks since I also never did that and have found quite a lovely sexually dominant partner—something society has never told me would be okay.

Sorry, just thinking out loud. I've got this on the mind right now.

As for Steve Jobs, if you haven't yet heard his commencement speech for Stanford's graduating class of 2005, you might like to hear it. He's so smart in it that I want to wank intellectually.

Eileen said...

That quote makes my head hurt through sheer grammatical confusion!

So, here's a question. I love smart men, Goodness. Love them. Do you ever find that you are smart in different ways than men? I realize the question is insanely too general, as we are all smart in very different ways (example being that I am smart aethetically and May is smart logically.) But I do sometimes find that the way I am smart is often complimentary to the ways in which many men are smart, making it much easier for me to become friends with men than with women.

Know what's a funny word if you write it too many times? Smart!

Elizabeth said...

Hi May -

I haven't commented on your sex trade post yet because I'm still fiddling with how I feel about it. (Also, frankly, your posts are always so eloquent and well thought out I, I try a little bit too hard to write a *good* comment instead of just blabbing. :) )

Anyway, I agree with the heart of your sex trade post and think referring to it here isn't off topic. Part, not all, of the prevalence of Female Gender Supremacy in at least the online F/m culture is due to the $$$$ cash back for promoting it.

Still, I'm not opposed to the sex trade, not the people who sell nor the people who buy, so I'm left without a *real* position on the overall. I just know that quotes like the one I posted are shit, no matter who is selling or buying what.

Cough. Apparently I have no problem rambling non-eloquently on my own blog.

hugs, E

P.S. and as far as anyone who predicted you wouldn't go far in life, ha, the joke is on them. And, you are just getting started!

Elizabeth said...

Eileen -

You are in my head. That's one of the posts on this subject that is rambling around in my brain.

To answer your question: yes, absolutely.

There are a few key men in my life, non-sexual, who, for want of a better word and this isn't a good one...."complete" me and I "complete" them. Work world thing, mostly.

The post is wicked hard to write, because I can't, yet, get it to come out without apparently bad gender generalizations.

Gender generalizations being something I hate, it's not what I'm trying to *say*, I just can't get out what I'm trying to say. Yet.

So, yes. And thanks for seeing it, too. That's encouraging!

E

nigel said...

Unfortunately in Australia if a man has any kind of "intelligence" he is accused of having "tall poppy syndrome!" and is socialy punished for being smart. Psychology Today, May/June, 2007, pg. 34 has a good article explaining this phenonemon. It is one of the few but biggest problem in my country.

Anonymous said...

I guess I am not that smart enough to have found the woman for me. Try to help me out and get to parts 85, 86 and 87 real soon.

I just wish the f I could be out of the closet and tell women what I want and not have to hide what I am which is being a submissive man without being laughed at, losing my job or facing ridicule or worse.

Jon Lovitz is the guy who said it, when told that women like a guy with a sense of humor. "I'm a funny guy" but he has a better delivery than I do.

I don't see women coming out either and saying they want their man to submit to them, except on anonymous blogs or except the pros.

The smartest man (or woman) is the one who realizes when s/he doesn't know something. Here's a hint read chapter 56. Maybe I will tell you which book it is next time or someone can surprise me with the answer first.

f of a

Anonymous said...

There is no chapter 56, Bruce!

Elizabeth said...

F of A -

Sigh. I have been trying to write a reply to your comment since you first posted it. Part of the reason it is taking me so long is that work is insane and sucking my life blood. Part of the reason is there is *so much* I want to say, it's really an essay that requires a full blog post. Too long for a comment.

I *hear* you. I mean that. I really, really *hear* you.

Scratch the single blog post necessary. Really, this entire blog, from its beginning to whenever it ends, is a response to at least part of what you are saying.

I started this blog because I felt invisible, well invisible of sorts. If you look back at the very first posts, with no readers, I'm saying, "Am I the *only* one?"

Really, I'm just some lady who lives in the suburbs, has a job, a husband and a couple of kids. And a couple of dogs. My sexuality may be edgy, but it's not outlandish or uber wild...and I *don't believe* that I'm some kind of statistical anomoly. There have to be plenty of women like me. They are either not talking or they are talking but being drowned out by all of the *noise*.

Which is the reason for the cranky posts lately, I am tired of the *noise*.

I believe the heart of the problem, the heart of the problem of you not finding the partner you are looking for is the *noise*.

(This is assuming you are the grounded, intelligent, sane man you seem to be from your comment. If you are the sort who approaches random women with "How may I submit to you, Mistress? Here's a list of the humiliating things I want you to do to me", then you are part of the noise problem. ;) I doubt this.)

Submissive male identity. I can't fix this. Some other people are starting to try a little. It's all FUBARed. The picture of submissive men painted online is not sexually or personally attractive to me at all.

How many intelligent and funny submissive guys do *you* know of blogging or being visible in some way? Where are the *personalities*?? I don't need to hear your favorite "I am a submissive man" fantasy posted over and over and over again. Blech!!! Talk to me. Become a *person*. Otherwise you are just a wanking letch, using my ears and eyes for your wank material.

There are a couple real guys. Not many. And they are drowned out in the noise.

You can't tell me they are statistical anomoly either.

Long. Long. Long.

And I didn't even get to Chapter 56 which I tried to google to cheat and look smart but didn't work.

hugs, E

Anonymous said...

"Talk to me."

I do. I mentioned that I was surprised that you hadn't commented on the recent deaths in the film industry - (Bergman and Antonioni). I asked about your feelings when a fellow worker thought you were from France. I suggested a book which you might find amusing. I referred you to an article in Wikepedia.

wank material - we don't need no stinkin wank material.

Trinity said...

"who takes advantage of a Woman’s intrinsic need to be Loved and Adored"

Gah! My eyes are bleeding. EWWW!

Elizabeth said...

Trinity -

HAI I IZ SUPREOR! ADOR ME!

Sorry, I can't stop. I try to stop, I just can't stop thinking in lolcat right now.......

*blush*

E

Elizabeth said...

Anon "Talk to me" -

'kay, I love the people who stop to comment here. I have some of the bestest commentors online. Don't you?

But here's the thing:

1) Anon comments are *fine*, but if there's no identification on a comment, there's no connection from one comment to another. I had no idea the same person made all of those comments.

Unsigned Anon comments are lovely welcomed. I just usually respond to them pretty impersonally 'cause I don't know have a clue who I am talking to.

Also, you should know, that I have a couple of trolls who make Anon comments regularly, so everytime I open up an unsigned Anon comment, I'm thinking it's a troll to start.

You know you can pick a name without linking to a blog or email address here, right? You could be Fred instead of just posting as Anon, and you'd be as anon as before, just an identified Anon.

(If that made no sense to you, it's not you, it's me. I am desperate for sleep! :) )

2) Talking to *me* on the blog is great...but that wasn't what I was referring to in my comment to F of A. (Unless you are F of A, in which case I am SO CONFUSED.)

I meant an online presence for submissive males that was far more rounded and normal than is normally represented on the internets.

As *world famous* a blogger as I am, my comment section hasn't quite made it to the top 100 on Technorati.

Again, I'm writing this response sleep deprived, so if it didn't make complete sense, ask, and I'll try to do better.

hugs, E

maymay said...

Elizabeth, when you said: How many intelligent and funny submissive guys do *you* know of blogging or being visible in some way? Where are the *personalities*?? I don't need to hear your favorite "I am a submissive man" fantasy posted over and over and over again. Blech!!! Talk to me. Become a *person*. Otherwise you are just a wanking letch, using my ears and eyes for your wank material.

It reminded me of my pre-2000 ALT.com profile which, among other things, said this verbatim:

Messages from men that contain one-liner, cock-assured egotism get deleted without a second thought. Interacting with overly-presumptuous women who think I should feel privileged to be talking with them is a waste of my time, too.

Talk to me about something engaging: a good book, an old favorite movie, some place you've traveled to or would like to visit, SOMETHING that tells me who you are and that makes me want to share who I am with you!

tom allen said...

Do you ever find that you are smart in different ways than men?

I've never discovered a pattern to this. People are all just smart (or dumb) in different ways, depending upon their interests, background, etc. I know a few women who hate puns and wordplay, and others who love it.

Back in college, it used to be fun to sit up all night arguing/debating/discussing with groups of friends, men and women. I found some strange attraction to certain women with whom I constantly disagreed, but still made these discussions enjoyable by their quality and style of debate.

While there might be some commonalities, I think it might be difficult to find a pattern of essentially "male" or "female" smartnessityism.

Anonymous said...

Suggestion accepted - I will identify my postings with ttm = "talk to me".

Modesty, and a fear that I might be successsfully contradicted, prevents me from claiming to be an
"intelligent and funny submissive guy" - although I think I might win if the adjectives were removed.
I came for the conversation, since the coffee isn't really all that good, but I will leave quietly if requested.

I am an American who has lived and work in Germany for the last 30+ years. I own a house, have two adult children who do not live at home, and have been married to the same woman for over 30 years.

ttm

Elizabeth said...

Hi Ttm, ttm, TTM -

That's a hard one to do, but I'm happy to have a name with anon. :)

I'll take mild exception at the coffee comment, since I take my coffee seriously (American! East Coast American! Caffeine powered!), but since I can't remember the last time I made a fresh pot here, you may have me.

Blogging has turned into a connecting experience for me that I couldn't have expected. I honestly agonized, before I started the blog (seems so silly now!) about why I would start a blog when I had no interest, in this space in my life, in connecting with men, one-to-one, on a sexual level.

Why would I even ask myself that question, much less agonize over it?

*boggle*

I don't know, but it's been a great six months. Made some excellent friends and some nice acquaintances.

Blogging isn't for everyone, but you might want to think about it. Frightful lot of work it's been for me, but I've loved nearly every minute of it.

hugs, E

Elizabeth said...

I was determined to finish up answering all of the *fantastic* comments on the blog from this last week before I turned in for the night tonight, but the Sandman is one of the few men who has dominon over me.

I submit!

I'll catch up with the rest here tomorrow.

*thank you*, everybody. It's been a great week. I love comments! E

Anonymous said...

"... you may have me."

No, no, no - only one to a customer, please!

ttm

Anonymous said...

F of A

Those who talk don't know
Those who know don't talk

Tao Te Ching, chaper 56

Thank you for listening

tom allen said...

56. Those Who Know Do Not Say

Those who know do not say;
those who say do not know.
Close the senses,
shut the doors;
blunt the sharpness,
resolve the complications;
harmonize the light,
assimilate to the world.
This is called mysterious sameness.

It cannot be made familiar,
yet cannot be estranged;
it cannot be profited,
yet cannot be harmed;
it cannot be valued,
yet cannot be demeaned.
Therefore it is precious for the world.

Elizabeth said...

Hmmm, all of the smart men this post is collecting are also more educated and better read than I am.

I *think* this is sexy.

;)

E